Friern/Colney Hatch, Second Middlesex Asylum, London

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Whilst in London, I made use of the Travelcard and headed north of the river (up north to us southerners :lol: ) and what can I way, what a ******* building! It is massive, took a good five minutes to walk the length of it...this was a nother blag with security and the hotties int he sales centre, got some strange looks of residents though! Interestingly, we missed the boat on an old university in Hertfordshire :(

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That's one huge building!

This looks to be a good example of how an old Hospital can be re-used.

Nice work ol' man :)

Lb :jimlad:
 
Friern/Colney Hatch, Second Middlesex Asylum, London - History Added

Originally, the second Middlesex Asylum was to be built close to the existing Middlesex Asylum at Hanwell, but for some reason it was built further away in Colney Hatch. The hospital was designed by Samuel Daukes under the guidance of John Conolly, the superintendent to Hanwell Asylum, and designed in the fashionable Italianate style. Prince Albert laid the foundation stone in May 1849 and the total cost of the project went on to come to nearly £400,000. It was designed in the corridor format that was widely used at the time and was situated on 119 acres of land brought from Halliwack Manor. Upon completion of the building, Colney Hatch was the largest Asylum in Europe, the frontage was 1884ft long and the building contained six miles of corridors - it held the longest corridor in England. The hospital opened on the 17th of July, 1851 with William Hood being made its first superintendent.

The Asylum was built at first to house up to 1000 patients, but as with a lot of early Asylums, the designers had grossly underestimated the demand that would be received. This led to the site being extended between 1857 and 1859 to bring the maximum population up to 2000 patients. By the 1860's, the population had far outstretched the resources of the staff and patients were often placed under restraint in busy times. This went against the original ethos of the hospital, that had been to dedicated the Asylum to non-restraint.

In 1889, the Asylum changed ownership from Middlesex to the London County Council, along with many other hospitals in the Greater London Area, such as Cane Hill. By 1898 the patient population had risen to 2500, to cope with this massive rise the Asylum built a number of wooden structures to house the extra patients. In 1903 one of these structure caught fire (prompting the protest against a similar system at the Manor Asylum, Epsom) and 51 patients were killed. The wards were later replaced with stone ones. Here is an extract from the Royal College of Psychiatrists publication about the fire:

"A few minutes after half-past 5 yesterday morning the steam siren at the asylum sounded the fire alarm, and the inhabitants of New Southgate, Barnet, and Edmonton, the parishes surrounding the asylum, who swarmed into the streets, saw a startling glare showing from the asylum grounds. It was evident that a disastrous fire, which had already obtained a strong hold, was in progress. A number of local residents climbed the wall of the asylum at the rear with a view of rendering assistance, but their aid was refused. The fire which had broken out so suddenly and was destined to end so tragically began at the bottom block of the temporary wards. It burnt from the outset with great fury, and in a few seconds the whole of the southern block, known as X ward 5, was involved. The buildings, being erected on timber frames and lined with matchboarding, of course fed the flames, and there being a high wind blowing at the time, every element necessary to assist the blaze was present. The asylum house fire brigade at once resolutely attacked the fire, but apparently they were in difficulties owing to the lack of water, and they were also short-handed for a task of such magnitude as that which confronted them, there being less than a dozen of the asylum staff drilled as firemen resident inside the walls. The heat and smoke created by the fire were also bad elements to contend with, it being im- possible to approach the burning block. In these circumstances it was not surprising to the spectators to observe after a very few minutes that X Ward 4 had burst into flames, which had swept along the communicating corridor, meeting with no opposition, while by this time the iron sides and roof of X 5 were almost at a white heat.

The Hornsey Fire Brigade had been the first to get their steamer to work, but they were unable to do any effective duty until they had dammed a brook at the bottom of the slope, about 400 yards from the fire. When they began to play upon the flames it was too late to prevent the total destruction of the temporary wards, which, in little more than an hour after the outbreak was discovered, had been burned out from end to end and had crumpled down. One after another the doomed huts burst into flames. For a while each burned with a brilliant glare, the flames shooting high into the air through the slightly-constructed roof. Then the roof and walls collapsed amid a shower of sparks, and the fire swept on to claim its neighbours. One by one in this rapid way all five of the wards tumbled down, a heap of smouldering ruins.

When day dawned, while some of the firemen pumping water from the brook below continued to play on the red hot débris, others began the terrible task of searching the ruins. Then it was discovered that the fire had claimed many victims... "


The site has now been redeveloped after the hospitals closure in 1993 and is known as Princess Park Manor, the majority of the buildings having been restored, the services and extensions to the wards have been demolished.
 
thanks for showing these, I was only last night reading about the Italianate Gothic facade of this hospital.
 
Originally, the second Middlesex Asylum was to be built close to the existing Middlesex Asylum at Hanwell, but for some reason it was built further away in Colney Hatch.

The reason for the change of location was the intention to each asylum to separate areas of the county. Hanwell was well placed to serve the west Middlesex area (the West end, Kensington, Ealing and outer towns) and to some extent south Middlesex (Ashford, Twickenham, Hounslow) but the shape of the county made the site a poor location for residents from the north, particularly Edmondton, Tottenham, Hackney etc. This idea had already been carried out in Lancashire which had been the first county to introduce multiple asylums with the opening of non-identical twin sites on the same day in 1851 at Prestwich and Rainhill - this allowed the county of Lancashire to effectively divided its geographical area and population. This was only partly successfull in middlesex as pressure for admissions usually meant that whatever space was available was utilised regardless of location. Ironically, when Banstead opened in 1877 it was designed intentionally for chronic patients only to allow Colney Hatch and Hanwell to concentrate on curables, but at least initially took all categories due to overspill from the existing asylums as well as the Metropolitan Board institutions.

Pete
 
The reason for the change of location was the intention to each asylum to separate areas of the county. Hanwell was well placed to serve the west Middlesex area (the West end, Kensington, Ealing and outer towns) and to some extent south Middlesex (Ashford, Twickenham, Hounslow) but the shape of the county made the site a poor location for residents from the north, particularly Edmondton, Tottenham, Hackney etc. This idea had already been carried out in Lancashire which had been the first county to introduce multiple asylums with the opening of non-identical twin sites on the same day in 1851 at Prestwich and Rainhill - this allowed the county of Lancashire to effectively divided its geographical area and population. This was only partly successfull in middlesex as pressure for admissions usually meant that whatever space was available was utilised regardless of location. Ironically, when Banstead opened in 1877 it was designed intentionally for chronic patients only to allow Colney Hatch and Hanwell to concentrate on curables, but at least initially took all categories due to overspill from the existing asylums as well as the Metropolitan Board institutions.

Pete


Ah, makes sense...i'll ammend the webpage I have built. Cheers!
 
wold have been an ultimate in its day, 2,500 patients!That's insanity.I saw a documentary about it on the history cannel about the history of ppl's home, I think most explorers wish they'd been born early enough to see some of these places before conversion.
 
I remember when it was disused (between 1993 and 1998) as we occasionally drove past it and as I recall, part of it to the right of admin was burnt out and roofless for ages. The grounds were huge and stretched back to the North Circ where Friern Bridge retail park now stands. It was quite well known in north London for being derelict and made it onto the telly numerous times. In fact there was a program about its regeneration. It also featured on a documentary about pigeon infestation which i happened to see way back (it was after 'Fist of Fun' with Lee and Herring) and 'Jo Brand goes Back to Bedlam' which was a program discussing mental health issues and community care and spent the night wandering the derelict asylum. I still have the latter on video somewhere...

Pete
 
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I remember when it was disused (between 1993 and 1998) as we occasionally drove past it and as I recall, part of it to the right of admin was burnt out and roofless for ages. The grounds were huge and stretched back to the North Circ where Friern Bridge retail park now stands. It was quite well known in north London for being derelict and made it onto the telly numerous times. In fact there was a program about its regeneration. It also featured on a documentary about pigeon infestation which i happened to see way back (it was after 'Fist of Fun' with Lee and Herring) and 'Jo Brand goes Back to Bedlam' which was a program discussing mental health issues and community care and spent the night wandering the derelict asylum. I still have the latter on video somewhere...

Pete

Ah man, that would have been an immense place to see - the place was an unbelievable size! the old maps show it having a building of the same size connected to the rear :eek:

you could have spent weeks in there looking around!!
 
Whilst in London, I made use of the Travelcard and headed north of the river (up north to us southerners :lol: ) and what can I way, what a ******* building! It is massive, took a good five minutes to walk the length of it...this was a nother blag with security and the hotties int he sales centre, got some strange looks of residents though! Interestingly, we missed the boat on an old university in Hertfordshire :(

University? not the one that used to be the Royal Masonic School for Boys, Near Bushey?
That was an fantastic looking building, had a look about 3 years ago but there was a large film crew on site :(
Take it it's been converted?

Dave
 
University? not the one that used to be the Royal Masonic School for Boys, Near Bushey?
That was an fantastic looking building, had a look about 3 years ago but there was a large film crew on site :(
Take it it's been converted?

Dave

At least one of my great aunts worked as a domestic at the Royal Masonic School between the wars.

When work in South Wales became hard to find the rest of the family moved to Watford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Masonic_School_for_Boys
 
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Great work. Fantastic photos. That first panoramic one works really well.

I bet that looked awesome on that program being wondered around when derelict.

Love that with the other place being used for Monty Python's Meaning of Life.
 

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