Banned by my college!

[st33ly]

I don't think you've annoyed anyone, or you shouldn't have done anyway. You've had a set back totally unexpected and your reaction is understandable. Human beings are crap at taking set backs, criticism or rejection, anyone who says their not is a lier, it's how you deal with it that counts. Perhaps internalizing it, instead of having a rant on a forum would have been better, but we all deal with set backs in different ways.

So yes your work that has until now received only positive feedback is suddenly not good enough, it's bound to confuse you.
Life's a game, and sometimes you have to play the game how others want it until you find your own feet and get where you want. This college course is only a short step up to bigger things, get the results you need in anyway and your laughing.

Good luck

And I think what you just said should end this rant lol.
Thanks

 

[Derelict-UK]

I would advise you not to go up to your tutors and say...

I have considered what you have asked me, asked for other opinions on the internet and come to the conclusion that I will carry on with urban exploration as my theme'

As this won't win you any favours as you will be strictly going against a request from a tutor.

If you still think you are wanting to include it in your work, ask them (don't tell them) if you could use it in a different manor (like said above) or get their opinions of what might be acceptable in a way of subject matter.

When I did college (multi-media) we had a set module course, we did a range of media and arts and that gave me a good open mind for University (where I did Photography).

In Uni we again had a module for the first 2 years and in the 3rd year we could do what we wanted, however if I had done the same thing I liked from start to finish, I doubt I would have passed.

Good luck anyway.

 

[DigitalNoise]

The way I see it is that exploring and photographing derelict buildings isn't going to make me much (if any) money, and I wouldn't think I'm alone.I spent a long time trying to figure out how I could incorporate it into my professional work but I have found that what works best, is to have a clean divide between your personal and professional work. That way you get to enjoy your explores a whole lot more. There's so much more to photography than urbex, it's probably the most diverse medium going, particularly if you want to make a living from it. Don't pigeon hole yourself.

 

[Dirus_Strictus]

I would just like to say thankyou to everyone thats commented on this topic. I've taken in what all of you have said and if ive annoyed alot of you then i'm sorry.

It is not you personally that annoys me ,clearly you have had some very conflicting messages from the college and its staff. I know what benefits one can gain from further education - I am not talking about money here. Even if one takes a degree in a subject that has no bearing on one's future or intended career, you can pick up such a lot that will prove useful in future years. However this depends to a greater extent on the 'teaching' at the college or university - a few hours formal lecturing and then access to the web for the rest of the week is not an education.

Sadly these 'fringe' courses offered by many of the met universities and their off shoots seem more a question of packing in the students, rather than offering a good rounded education. Hopefully the ever rising costs to the students will start a serious discussion on 'value for money for the student' We have a friend whose son started an English degree at Nottingham last year - formal attendance is just one day a week. Now I know that a lot of essay writing is involved, but surely one's first year should/must be more structured than that? A lot can go wrong in a year and a misused year is now an expensive mistake.

I wish you well in your future endeavors.

 

[krela]

It is not you personally that annoys me ,clearly you have had some very conflicting messages from the college and its staff. I know what benefits one can gain from further education - I am not talking about money here. Even if one takes a degree in a subject that has no bearing on one's future or intended career, you can pick up such a lot that will prove useful in future years. However this depends to a greater extent on the 'teaching' at the college or university - a few hours formal lecturing and then access to the web for the rest of the week is not an education.

Sadly these 'fringe' courses offered by many of the met universities and their off shoots seem more a question of packing in the students, rather than offering a good rounded education. Hopefully the ever rising costs to the students will start a serious discussion on 'value for money for the student' We have a friend whose son started an English degree at Nottingham last year - formal attendance is just one day a week. Now I know that a lot of essay writing is involved, but surely one's first year should/must be more structured than that? A lot can go wrong in a year and a misused year is now an expensive mistake.

I wish you well in your future endeavors.

But none of that has anything to do with the topic in question, nor anything on the forum!

 

[RedDave]

Could you not arrange permission visits of sites which are either still in use or derelict and guarded by security, and take urbex-style photographs in those places?

Or even go to Scotland and visit places without permission, claiming legal protection under the Scottish Outdoor Access Code?

Trespass is not a prerequisite for urban exploration.

 

[Em_Ux]

I don't have any advice for you St33ly but hope you manage to get it all sorted out & still be able to enjoy what you do.

 

[kathyms]

prerequisite

prerequisite i had to look that up ... anyway just thought id put my 2 penny worth in. you realy need to be taught to take pics of all things. having an eye for photography means judging instantly what makes a good photo. to make money you need to be able to take the pics your customers ask for. weddings, scenery , portraits, buisnesses, the local rag, the list goes on. i did these before everything went digital and i became old, now everyone wonts to take pics for a living so you have to be the best to be at the top. Good luck it is a brill job and an art.

 

[carly]

Hi St33ly, It's Charlotte - we met at 'Hoarder's'. Utterly pathetic of your college - reminds me of when a First Aid course told us we weren't allowed to stop people choking from behind as it could look like we were sexually assaulting them. Your pictures are great and I believe Urbex isn't actually a choice (It's in your blood!) - hence why we did a mega-trip to see one house. Hope you find a cunning loophole and maybe one day you can send them a photo from Reactor 4. Charlotte.

 

[godzilla73]

Yes, sorry I didn't explain that too well. Submitting work thats urbex. But still thats what my work is about and they are telling me that they cannot "endorse that kind of behaviour". It's put a spannah in my works tbh.

I wonder if they would have said the same to Jake and Dinos Chapman....

 

[st33ly]

Could you not arrange permission visits of sites which are either still in use or derelict and guarded by security, and take urbex-style photographs in those places?

Or even go to Scotland and visit places without permission, claiming legal protection under the Scottish Outdoor Access Code?

Trespass is not a prerequisite for urban exploration.

Hey, Ive tried getting permission and most of the time its a No.

 

[nelly]

Just read the tread for the first time tonight and I don't really have any good advice to give you that hasn't been over already.

Just wanted to say good luck and if you love it then stick at it mate

 

[dizzydebs]

i completed a foundation degree last year in learning support, each module looked at different parts of education and we had to do assignments for each module. all in all the tutors were crap but i suppose at the end of it i came out with a better all round understanding of education which helps me do my job as a teaching assistant.

suppose what i am trying to say is, if we had looked at just aspect of education i wouldnt have had such a good understand on the topic in general, so maybe your tutors are just trying to help you explore more areas in order you to be a good all rounder??

hope you manage to sort things out cos you really dont want to waste all your hard work you have dont to date, and i know how much hard work goes into getting a qualification in higher education.

good luck

 

[RedDave]

Hey, Ive tried getting permission and most of the time its a No.

Subbrit regularly arrange permission visits to various sites. They might be worth a try.

 

[Ace5150]

Shoot some porn, and you watch them ask you to go back to urbex!

 

[st33ly]

Shoot some porn, and you watch them ask you to go back to urbex!

Now there's an idea that could work lol.

 

[kathyms]

sorry

im sorry but i still say, if your going into photography as a job you need to lear to photograph all things, urbex is an art form and your hoby but you have to learn every aspect.

 

[kathyms]

ps

look at me i pissed about at school now i cant spell for toffee. i blame the keyboard and being dislexic lol.

 

[night crawler]

I blame the school and the area.

 

[niklas]

Re Your Banning...

Your teacher must be an absolute cretin! Your project sounds excellent and I would urge you to pursue your interests whatever to pursuade your college that there is both art and poetry in dereliction.

Mr Terry Reed Head of Art Malton Faith School