BBC news this morning

[ricasso]

Did any one else see that report on the bbc news programme this morning regarding vandalism of derelict property?
while the reporter was wandering around an old farmhouse it was said, and i quote "self styled urban explorers" would enter property closed to the general public and while 'some' would leave little evidence of their visit others would not,then the camera pans to shots of grafitti and general destruction!
dont know if it can be acessed on iplayer or the bbc website but its worth seeing!

 

[night crawler]

I saw that as well, should be able to view it on BBC news

 

[mookster]

Yeah I saw it as well....and as well as that report they also had a reporter down in London's sewer system as well for a totally separate thing, not a bad morning.

 

[ricasso]

just been trying mate, for 'some' reason its about the only story they havn't highlited for today!
it could be worth contacting them though, after all it was hardly unbiased well researched reporting was it!

 

[ricasso]

Yeah I saw it as well....and as well as that report they also had a reporter down in London's sewer system as well for a totally separate thing, not a bad morning.

not a very good morning either, considering they were painting urbexing with the old 'vandalism' brush again!

 

[Bunker Bill]

I saw it also, wonder where that farm is in Winchester, have to start googling

 

[ricasso]

not a very good morning either, considering they were painting urbexing with the old 'vandalism' brush again! when you realise that urbexers were the only group of people mentioned in the report, no mention of pikeys,chavs etc, the general public in there infinate wisdom will always believe what they've just seen, as a result we get seen as the bad guys yet again!

 

[Seahorse]

We need to improve our Public Profile.

I'm going to start wearing a suit and tie on my explores from now on.

 

[krela]

We need to improve our Public Profile.

I'm going to start wearing a suit and tie on my explores from now on.

Eh? I've always done that.

It does get a bit tedious cleaning the mud off my spats all the time though.

 

[ricasso]

ive just sent the BBC news an email voicing my concern's regarding their report, im not holding my breath though !!!

 

[Foxylady]

ive just sent the BBC news an email voicing my concern's regarding their report, im not holding my breath though !!!

Good idea. I'll do the same. Mind, I don't blame you for not holding your breath mate. Certain leaked documents have shown directives from bosses to newsreaders to say things in a specific way or use specific words in order to create bias...not about this subject, but about the election reform campaign, which is even worse. Don't get me started! lol

 

[highcannons]

Good idea. I'll do the same. Mind, I don't blame you for not holding your breath mate. Certain leaked documents have shown directives from bosses to newsreaders to say things in a specific way or use specific words in order to create bias...not about this subject, but about the election reform campaign, which is even worse. Don't get me started! lol

Kinda reminds me of back in the day when some pubs wouldn't serve me cos I had a leather jacket on.....bike rider lobby groups battled against stereotyping for years and got no where, things are only better cos most bike rider are now weekend warriors/leisure users. Theres so many more interesting things to do than try to re educate thicko's!

 

[Foxylady]

Theres so many more interesting things to do than try to re educate thicko's!

I agree, highcannons. Although when it comes to the media, they should be held accountable.

 

[Seahorse]

Eh? I've always done that.

It does get a bit tedious cleaning the mud off my spats all the time though.

I actually did once though. I was driving past the old brickworks at Cruden Bay and noticed a chance to get in. Unfortunately I was on my way back from an interview. Fortunately, my suit only cost a fiver from Oxfam.

Sadly, the brickworks is now gone, as is the Marshall horizontal single cylinder engine. But it was a prompt to try to keep a camera with me at all times. When I remember, that is.

 

[Engineer]

The problem is that however principled we are in our research/exploration many forums are used as a 'Reference Work' for those intent on vandalism or financial gain/trophy hunting.

WE INADVERTENTLY DEFEAT OUR OWN AIMS!

Rant over, feel free to delete.

 

[Seahorse]

Conversely, without prior entry being gained by those who vandalise and otherwise destroy, many places would remain forever inaccessible.

It's a moral dilemma right enough.

 

[krela]

The problem is that however principled we are in our research/exploration many forums are used as a 'Reference Work' for those intent on vandalism or financial gain/trophy hunting.

WE INADVERTENTLY DEFEAT OUR OWN AIMS!

Rant over, feel free to delete.

Do you really think so?

I don't really consider the problem to be any worse than I remember it being in the 70s or 80s where vandalism and asset stripping was equally as bad if not worse, and the internet didn't even exist in a public form then.

Sure there are undoubtedly people in our midst who have less than admirable aims, its been proven to be so many times. However they will still exist and do what they do whether they're here or not, the only difference is they wouldn't be able to call themselves urban explorers they would just be simple thieves/vandals as they always have been.

 

[lost]

I don't consider myself an "urban explorer", so I'm alright.

 

[manof2worlds]

Here's a link to the story:

BBC Story

 

[Engineer]

Conversely, without prior entry being gained by those who vandalise and otherwise destroy, many places would remain forever inaccessible.

It's a moral dilemma right enough.

It's not a major problem (IMHO) if the site is going to be demolished or re-developed as at least records are kept of the site 'as was' to its final demise

It becomes a major problem when it involves sites that are not transient in nature, mines, tunnels, ROC posts etc.
Such sites have been explored quietly for many years without problem but now they are on 'to do' lists and attract the attention of the powers that be.
This has led to many be sealed, some very permanently.