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jerm IX

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Welcome to the Holocaust Abortion Tour, please keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times.

The full story of the tour and it's given name and extensive documentation of four of the houses explored during this 16 hour extravaganza can be found here...

http://jermalism.blogspot.ca/2012/09/abandonment-issues-holocaust-abortion.html



The Holocaust Abortion Tour (East Meets West 2) by jerm IX, on Flickr


jerm IV by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5076 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5057 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5134 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5288 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5382 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5344 by jerm IX, on Flickr


IMG_5353 by jerm IX, on Flickr
 
The context of your title for the thread is that of Pro-life groups in the US attempting to compare abortion with 'The Holocaust'. The meaning of which is entirely different to most observers.

I've no doubt that you came by this title exactly in the way you describe in your blog and that it is therefore innocent in essence on your part.

I fear however, that as feelings run very high worldwide, your title may not be seen by all as entirely appropriate for what is otherwise an interesting and well photographed road trip.

Well done and thank you but please, reconsider the title. No one finds the word 'Holocaust' in it's historical context amusing and as your trip clearly was, I think you might regret this.
 
The title of this piece is certainly not nice and shows just how out of touch some people (who should know better) really are. Neither clever nor funny and good photographic technique is no excuse for the somewhat cliched and boring images!
 
The title of this piece is certainly not nice and shows just how out of touch some people (who should know better) really are. Neither clever nor funny and good photographic technique is no excuse for the somewhat cliched and boring images!

But hey, at least they contribute something other than waffle to the site, tone down the criticism please.

I also am not keen on the name, each to their own I suppose!
 
Krela you beat me to it, I always look forward to your reports Jerm and one day I am sure I will explore your side of the pond however title is a little misguided and these reports are more holocaust related:

[ame]http://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/main/showthread.php?t=20769[/ame]

[ame]http://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/main/showthread.php?t=20766[/ame]


Still nice set all the same
 
Which is why I kept it polite and reasonable and only expressed my opinion Krela. I also thanked him for the content which I enjoyed and merely suggested looking again at the title.


EDIT: Deleted some of the text. I don't need to say it having re-read my original post which is fine as is.
 
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Great pics, shame about the title of the thread. :confused:
 
Picture 2 , it is, isnt it... Its Neil circa 1982 having a negative reality inversion. ( older members only ) :)

Nice shots there...... Cheers.

PS Your blog has some seriously nice pictures as well!
 
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Thanks (almost) everyone. Really nice to hear that some of you are diggin' my goodies.

I just added this lil' addition to the blog post to address the issue of the title. It won't please everyone, but at least it states the reasoning clearly...

I would be re-missed not to add that some quick research later revealed that the Holocaust Abortion billboard could be attributed to an American based Pro-Life group and their misguided attempt to somehow equate abortions to the holocaust. I do not support this argument, or this cause. For the record, I am pro-choice. The title of the tour was decided on unanimously by all four explorers participating, for the simple reason that it had an impact on the day from a comedic perspective. I've received some negative feedback about the title, and if it offends you, I'm sorry. But no, not sorry enough to change it.
 
But hey, at least they contribute something other than waffle to the site, tone down the criticism please.

I also am not keen on the name, each to their own I suppose!

Nooooo, are you serious, has the day come when we are going to be told that we are not allowed to voice our opinion??

Well I'll voice mine now

I looked at the photos and I personally think that 1,2,6,7,9 are valid photos for a report, number 2 is great and I can see the time and effort that has gone into it.

As for the wasps, the nail through the wood, the book and the weaving then they could have been taken in my shed, so the irrelevant photos make up half of the report.

This aside then if people have an opinion of the words "Holocaust" or "Abortion" then surely they should be allowed to say so. There was no rudeness in the replies concerning this, the title was obviously chosen to get a response, it got one!!! So why the ban on free speech???

A sad day for DP!!!!
 
Nooooo, are you serious, has the day come when we are going to be told that we are not allowed to voice our opinion??

Well I'll voice mine now

I looked at the photos and I personally think that 1,2,6,7,9 are valid photos for a report, number 2 is great and I can see the time and effort that has gone into it.

As for the wasps, the nail through the wood, the book and the weaving then they could have been taken in my shed, so the irrelevant photos make up half of the report.

This aside then if people have an opinion of the words "Holocaust" or "Abortion" then surely they should be allowed to say so. There was no rudeness in the replies concerning this, the title was obviously chosen to get a response, it got one!!! So why the ban on free speech???

A sad day for DP!!!!

Free speech is a myth, so playing that card is pointless. Free speech on the internet comes with your ability to create your own website where you can say whatever you want and even that has legal limitations. On this website, constructive criticism is generally welcomed (by most people), but taking a personal pop at someone and adding nothing of use is not. I felt that the post I was referring to crossed this line in both tone and content, and it's not the first time I've noticed it recently. Phrases like 'should know better' and 'no excuse' are personal in nature and wholly unnecessary.

Maybe I should have dealt with it via PM, but hey, I'm human too. :p
 
The title of this piece is certainly not nice and shows just how out of touch some people (who should know better) really are. Neither clever nor funny and good photographic technique is no excuse for the somewhat cliched and boring images!

I can't see what line this crossed tbh?


Free speech is a myth, so playing that card is pointless. Free speech on the internet comes with your ability to create your own website where you can say whatever you want

Ah so if I am a member of DP then I can only critisize if you agree with it then?

Maybe the next explore I do of a derelict factory I will call the "Baby Jew annihilator tour", post some dodgy photos of dead insects and hardware fixings, and all will be cool, but hey , as long as its got a arty depth of field and there no rusty cars involved
 
Ah so if I am a member of DP then I can only critisize if you agree with it then?

I don't agree with quite a bit of what people say and do on here, so long as it's presented in a friendly and constructive way I don't really care, that's the joy of people being different, sometimes I can learn from it and change my mind. Unless I believe that people are being unethical, and then I challenge it. As I just explained it is not the opinions I have problems with, it is the ways of expressing them. As an admin and a mod it's up to me to decide where the line between a reasonable and friendly way of expressing an opinion and an unreasonable one is. Some people will agree and some won't. I can't please everybody all of the time.

However, it is exactly this policy that I've upheld for the past 7 years and that most people see as keeping DP a friendly and welcoming place. You appear to want to take everything I say absolutely literally, but that's not really what I'm saying.
 

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