London Standard with it's low level of journalism

[PaulPowers]

Looks like the london standard has an issuewith urban exploration.

I don't know anyone involved with exploration that would break in somewhere.

thisislondon.co.uk

this type of article really gets under my skin

 

[Dextersdad]

Dont let them get under your skin I am a member of the air gun community and that articals nowt compaired to what we get.

 

[Priority 7]

While I agree it could be tainted with sensationalist journalism. The UEer interviewed openly admitted breaking in:

"Where we need to pick a lock or disable security systems, we always put it back the way it was."

Whats worse is they have a special constable in the group...sorry this article tainted or not is not helping us with their open admission of "breaking in". Just my opinion.

 

[Els]

No one is breaking and entering except the pikes, who more often than not forge a path for us.

The article is just a typical piece of sensationalistic rubbish best ignored. It's full of misinformation and misquotes.

 

[godzilla73]

I can't believe that the ES is that short of news! Whatever next? "Berlusconi: My life on the run from the West Park secca" or "James Murdoch denies claims that NOTW hacked Corsham yonks ago" perhaps.......

 

[PaulPowers]

the sad part is climbing out of a manhole or culvert I often get stopped by interested members of the public, now if someone reads this type of trash I'm going to get pulled out by the long arm of the law

 

[Pincheck]

Yes well sorry but you have to be dumb to speak to the press regardless And the article just proves it !

 

[highcannons]

As a motorcyclist of long standing an an old git I can remember when bikers were given this treatment, and there were always 'bikers' ready to be interviewed and confirm the publics worse fears! A bit of make believe by the journalist or a wannabe biker doesn't make any difference.

You will drive yourself nuts worrying about this stuff, ignore it best you can and sooner or later they will pick on someone else to bully.

If you can do something about it don't bitch - do it. If not don't worry

 

[cogito]

Bit of a tangent but I welcome the day where we live in a British society that adopts similar attitudes towards UE that the Aussies seem to have. Cave Clan being widely known about helped massively on that front, with members of the public being more intrigued and friendly towards explorers rather than baffled and instantly dismissive of activities they don't understand like we have in the UK.

The article could be a lot, lot worse; but it doesn't help that there are several inaccuracies (Mr Garret was in the USA at the time they say he was arrested in London! for example) and the obvious, and I presume deliberate on the reporters part, misquote regarding breaking and entering. That part has caused the most controversy.

 

[UrbanX]

Yes well sorry but you have to be dumb to speak to the press regardless And the article just proves it !

I REALLY want to disagree with you as I've done it. BUT... I get so sick of this sensationalism about "Breaking in" it mentions it god knows how many times in a short article, makes me sick. I'm not saying they're squeeky clean, but :I wonder if the subjects of the article are upset at how it's worded?

Oh, and Hats off to Paul Powers and Urbex-SW for actually commenting on the article with some actual sense.

 

[UEP-Wales]

I have to be honest, I wouldn't mind speaking to the press and taking them out for a day. Would probably scare the hell out of most of them.

My personal view on Urbexers breaking in to places is that they are just thieves with cameras. These people have probably seen stuff on the website and thought it would make a good cover story if they were ever stopped.
I have found it hard at some sites that I have not posted because of my age. They look at me and think I am just another kid causing trouble but that's not why I go to these places.
I go because my kids will probably never see the places that I have gone to, I go because it's better than sitting at home doing nothing, it's great to see the places that people once stood, worked, lived in. The amount of history that is in these places is mental and if it wasn't for us going in and taking photo's off it all, nobody would ever know.

Anyway's, Im actually off out now to do a little Urbex work

 

[mookster]

No one is breaking and entering except the pikes, who more often than not forge a path for us.

The article is just a typical piece of sensationalistic rubbish best ignored. It's full of misinformation and misquotes.

Lol.

Ignoring the fact the 'crew' in question is heading to court today?

 

[krela]

It is basically true that the biggest "crew" in urbex does exactly what they've reported.

Yes the article has been sensationalised but that's what the press do, don't shoot the messenger...

 

[Pincheck]

I REALLY want to disagree with you as I've done it. BUT... I get so sick of this sensationalism about "Breaking in" it mentions it god knows how many times in a short article, makes me sick. I'm not saying they're squeeky clean, but :I wonder if the subjects of the article are upset at how it's worded?

Oh, and Hats off to Paul Powers and Urbex-SW for actually commenting on the article with some actual sense.

I too have had a personal dealing with reporters and would want nothing to do with them. My view is to get in and leave places with no fuss or Drama. I would have nothing to do with this type of self proclaiming "look At me" Type of explore

 

[PaulPowers]

I have been contacted by the press in the past where they tried to use the line that we should be glad of the exposure, I really don't want any exposure and would be happy heading down drains and mines without the press making everyone look like the minority that does break the law

 

[UrbanX]

This is always going to be a lively debate in our community.

If they want to do an article on it they will. To play Devils Advocate: if Paul, or any other sensible, intelligent explorer had spoken to them, maybe they wouldn't have interviewed someone who wants to tell the world that Urbex is all about lock picking or b******g in?

 

[smiler]

I personal didn’t like to read that folk who as I do get a buzz out of exploring places where we have no legal right to be saying that they use lock-picks and are capable of disabling security systems and then reset them when they leave. I don’t personally know any of this crew but I feel there is a fair bit of egotism in their press briefing giving the reporters and sub-editors free rain to sensationalise the story.

Rant Over.

 

[Foxylady]

I must admit that I did an interview with my local paper about 4 years ago, after contacting them about some info on Seaton Heights Hotel that they'd written about. It was okay, nothing controversial...just an item about a local personal's hobby. I really liked UrbanX's interview on radio, but I think it pays to be wary. For instance, in my interview the reporter got a few things wrong...again, nothing horrendous...but they do have an agenda and will write from their point of view and not always just the facts.

 

[GE066]

Are people really getting upset by a paper owned by the Daily Fail? It's sensationalist tabloid cobblers. Brad gets his kicks winding up the press and authorities. The Fail get their get kicks by making out that anyone who isn't married with 2.4 kids and attends church (but defo not a mosque) on sundays is some kind of freak outlaw.

A lot of places wouldn't be accessible without someone doing a bit of b&e or losing a padlock. Whether thieves (pikies is a racist term used to demonise gypsies), local kids chucking stones through windows, or explorers. I'm sure half the people on this site have been and enjoyed say West Park for example. All those buildings were originally secure, so who do you think opened them? Security? The owners? We only explore Derps mostly, not cash & carry warehouses or mobile phone factories.

The article mentions 'breaking into drains'. I've done a fair bit of London drains and never had to break in, nor has anyone else I know of. Most of the places i've done haven't involved any breaking in, and thankfully others did it for me where needed. I think people are getting upset and overly worrying about an article in a very biased tabloid.

TBH, what I find offensive is the explorers who've decided to squabble on the comments section. Embarrassing all of us that indulge in this hobby.

Chill!

p.s. The Daily Fail HQ is currently covered in scaff, it's a nice little explore

 

[UEP-Wales]

TBH, what I find offensive is the explorers who've decided to squabble on the comments section. Embarrassing all of us that indulge in this hobby.

Wasn't aware that I was squabbling but good to know. At the end of the day, there is a fine line between trespassing and breaking in to somewhere.

If you are breaking into buildings, your just part of the reason that they are in the state that they are in now. There are loads of places I would love to go and see and although I am very capable of putting a window through, picking a lock, hacking into CCTV in some circumstances - why bother? To take a photograph? Well worth the risk of getting arrested and charged isn't it!

I love going into derelict sites, love taking the photographs but would never take such a stupid risk when lets face it, somebody will do it for you eventually!