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James Hall;8790; said:
I don't, not any more anyway.

I find exploring on my own gives a lot more freedom to go where I want and do what I want and it means I don't have to mess around with waiting till the other person isn't busy.
I know it's safer to go in a pair, but there again, I'm not stupid, I carry a rudimentary first aid kit and a phone and I avoid major risks, so I figure I'll probably be fine.

Mind you it's a matter of personal preference really, I've never been a huge fan of teamwork.
I've always enjoyed visiting sites on my lonesome and I will continue to do so (spotted somewhere today I'll be paying a visit to tomorrow). It's just it'd be nice to have company once in a while - and also finally meet somebody else who doesn't think it's a stupid thing to be doing.
 
norman;8780; said:
Yep, twice actually [same place, same tramp]

Yeah he was really nice he said he tries to keep the duggies and arsonisits out of the building, he didnt want anything off us we offered him a pint, or some money, the first time we had the tour. Then the second he was ok, and asked us for a £1 gave him two which I thought was worth it for showing us the safe way in and out.

S
 
I've only ever been to a couple of places alone, like St. Mary's ( http://technotom.livejournal.com/61553.html ) which was a frustrating experience when all is said and done. There were certain risks I did not take (like going out at the top of the water tower) simply because I was on my own. There was no phone reception which didn't help either.

If I was with somebody, I could have seen lots more of the site and would not have wasted time debating with myself whether or not I was going to climb that rickety ladder, go in that watery tunnel etc. just gone for it, in the relative safety of knowing that someone is on hand to get help if I was to break something or get trapped somewhere.
 
i wouldn't go exploring derelict buildings on my own, used to go a lot when i was younger, but grown up since and know the hazards, plus its more dangerous nowadays (or seems like it lol) than it was years ago.

my best mate says she'd like to go exploring with me now, and a new friend in lincoln wants to as well, so at least i should have someone with me nowadays to go with. just for safety. ie, accident the other person can fone for an ambulance or help you out etc. or if theres pikeys or druggies etc, two people are better than one.
 
smileysal;8921; said:
i wouldn't go exploring derelict buildings on my own, used to go a lot when i was younger, but grown up since and know the hazards, plus its more dangerous nowadays (or seems like it lol) than it was years ago.
my best mate says she'd like to go exploring with me now, and a new friend in lincoln wants to as well, so at least i should have someone with me nowadays to go with. just for safety. ie, accident the other person can fone for an ambulance or help you out etc. or if theres pikeys or druggies etc, two people are better than one.
you sound boring!
 
ok, i may sound boring, but at least i know im safe. if you wanna break your neck or worse, killed etc, you're choice. but as im a single parent with 2 kids, then safety is the paramount thing. but then again, ive been exploring since i was 10, (no pics unfortunately) so been doing it for 29 years, so i think i know what im talking about regarding safety. :rolleyes:

but each to there own. :evil:
 
I tend to go as a group of two or three, never more than three people including myself though as 2 or 3 seems the perfect amount to be safe, but still discrete.
As for safety, there are ways and means of staying safe on your own, the most obvious being if i'm not back by 'x' please call 'y' and tell them i'm at 'z'.... however that could mean that you've been laying in an exposed or hidden place (both as bad as each other) bleeding with rusting metal, broken timbers or glass sticking through you. If something were to happen in an derelict building or an abandoned bit of infrastructure I'd prefer a couple of cool heads around me at the time who could give help and call for backup.
The dangers in some of the places we visit aren't always as obvious as we'd like (from the point of view of spotting them!!) and I'm sure we've all nearly (or indeed some of us actually have...) fallen through floors, or underestimated just how big a drop is below a sagging floor or roof, and we've all seen bits of (or again at least the results of) masonry falling from the heavens, so with all this in mind I'd prefer to have some backup there immediately who can help if the worst were to happen...
Of course this rather brings the whole issue of safety up, I mean as if it isn't bad enough some of these places are falling down, some are full of miscreants, arsonists, abandoned waste, spores, battery acid, chemicals, asbestos and a whole host of other nasties and the most some of us take is a torch and a fancy camera, (I know because I'm often one of them! :icon_evil ) but many a time i've grumbled under my breath about having a hard hat, and maybe even a half decent respirator about my person for those times when you'd love to go in further but your common sense is telling you that it's probably a real* death trap.... and let's face it both of those items you can pick up at a builders merchant for under 40 quid, so there really isn't an excuse.
*real death trap.... as oppose to 'death trap's' that HSE and the nanny state brand everything that isn't a bright yellow, padded, safety signed, cctv'd barratt box. :)
 
Apologies for resurrecting this seemingly deceased topic, but I had my first joint explore a little while back and I have some fresh thoughts.

Pete C took me to Severalls, which would have to rank amongst the best sites I've visited and I certainly couldn't have asked for a better host. He showed me around (I'd definitely have got completely lost without him), knew where the best stuff was, could answer most questions I threw his way and was just plain good company.

On Sunday I visited Richborough Power Station (I have pictures if anybody'd like to see them) and did a solo explore. There's stuff I'd have liked to ask about, but I don't think I'd trade the experience of being completely alone on that huge site for anything. The whole place (even the small building by the main gates where the security shoud have been - where their hi-vis where all hanging up) was completely empty. I took it at my own pace, looked where I wanted to look and could fully take in the silence, stillness and emptiness of the place.

A year ago - maybe even sooner - I wouldn't have dared tackle such a large location by myself. Now I'm proud of myself for doing so. For a long time I thought it was just me doing this. Then I found out many other people were doing it and what I was doing was pretty small stuff. Now I feel like a fully-fledged Urban Explorer.

That doesn't mean I don't always want to go places on my own, I'd just have to see them on my own at least once. I visited a site yesterday and part of me wanted somebody else there, if just for a bit of company and reassurance (lots and lots of people had been in there and a few of them could still have been about by the looks of things)

As for the dangers (see quote below) - I got a cut on my leg and a couple of scratches on my arm from my visit to Richborough Power Station. How serious were they? I didn't even notice them until the day after. I've been at this for five years and those are the only injuries I've ever got.

I think that most (not all) hazards are avoidable once you know what to look for. Personally, I found a good way to not fall through sagging floors is to not walk on them. Nearly every site I visit has concrete floors anyway so it's hardly limiting my activities.

A tutor at a writing class I attended a few years back said that the secret to becoming a good writer is to follow the rules and the secret of becoming a great writer was to break the rules. Never going on your own is a good rule, but I think it's certainly one to break when you have enough experience.

sassylad;8987; said:
The dangers in some of the places we visit aren't always as obvious as we'd like (from the point of view of spotting them!!) and I'm sure we've all nearly (or indeed some of us actually have...) fallen through floors, or underestimated just how big a drop is below a sagging floor or roof, and we've all seen bits of (or again at least the results of) masonry falling from the heavens, so with all this in mind I'd prefer to have some backup there immediately who can help if the worst were to happen...
 
I wont really comment on the lone exploration thing as Ive always been happy to break that rule. I would be very interested in seeing your Richborough pictures, Particularly as its been a long time since i've been and would like to see how its changed. You might also consider sharing a few recent ones of severalls.

Jamie of Hackney;9536; said:
Apologies for resurrecting this seemingly deceased topic, but I had my first joint explore a little while back and I have some fresh thoughts.

Pete C took me to Severalls, which would have to rank amongst the best sites I've visited and I certainly couldn't have asked for a better host. He showed me around (I'd definitely have got completely lost without him), knew where the best stuff was, could answer most questions I threw his way and was just plain good company.

On Sunday I visited Richborough Power Station (I have pictures if anybody'd like to see them) and did a solo explore. There's stuff I'd have liked to ask about, but I don't think I'd trade the experience of being completely alone on that huge site for anything. The whole place (even the small building by the main gates where the security shoud have been - where their hi-vis where all hanging up) was completely empty. I took it at my own pace, looked where I wanted to look and could fully take in the silence, stillness and emptiness of the place.

A year ago - maybe even sooner - I wouldn't have dared tackle such a large location by myself. Now I'm proud of myself for doing so. For a long time I thought it was just me doing this. Then I found out many other people were doing it and what I was doing was pretty small stuff. Now I feel like a fully-fledged Urban Explorer.

That doesn't mean I don't always want to go places on my own, I'd just have to see them on my own at least once. I visited a site yesterday and part of me wanted somebody else there, if just for a bit of company and reassurance (lots and lots of people had been in there and a few of them could still have been about by the looks of things)

As for the dangers (see quote below) - I got a cut on my leg and a couple of scratches on my arm from my visit to Richborough Power Station. How serious were they? I didn't even notice them until the day after. I've been at this for five years and those are the only injuries I've ever got.

I think that most (not all) hazards are avoidable once you know what to look for. Personally, I found a good way to not fall through sagging floors is to not walk on them. Nearly every site I visit has concrete floors anyway so it's hardly limiting my activities.

A tutor at a writing class I attended a few years back said that the secret to becoming a good writer is to follow the rules and the secret of becoming a great writer was to break the rules. Never going on your own is a good rule, but I think it's certainly one to break when you have enough experience.
 
Been a while...

Just wondering how many people have had problems when exploring from youths etc at the sites?

My wife is very pregnant and we have two children already so I will be going solo. Scouting out a few places at the moment. Day job gives me professional coded two way radio's so I plan on using these to keep in touch with the wife which will stay in the car near the site.
Every so often, I will get in touch to say everything's ok. If I don't she calls for help. Simples really :lol:

Very curious though of how many problems others have had if any - what would you do if your on your own exploring a site and you come across a room full of kids that are not happy to see you!
 
My main concerns about exploring are bumping into pikeys/chavs and breathing in asbestos/dust/mould spores, ive found out the hard way that its best to have a dust mask!

I mostly explore on my own so i just text a mate saying where ive gone and how long i should be, as for the pikeys it best to know your way out in case you need to leg it.
 
1. How do you get people to explore derelict buildings with you?

A shotgun taped to their nether regions usually works.

IMO lone explores are the best.

I explore with another person and we know our limits and won't push each other. we also know when to shut up and hide, and more importantly when to stay put and not panic.

It's a bit like being on your own but with a mate lol.

when there is 3 or more it gets a bit of a problem trying to hide and there is always someone who will want to run instead of staying put, which means we all have to run.
 
I've discussed this before with loads of people.

I explore alone 99% of the time and I like it that way, a solo explore is in no way scary in fact it's quite the opposite, nothing can compare to taking the time to stop and sit in a room/drain and just take in the atmosphere for ten minutes.

Solo explorers are so much more personal and remember if you come crashing out of a room the pikeys will be more scared of you than you are of them :lol:
 
The few times I've done a solo explore it's been fantastic. Of course it helps if you know the site and what it's like so you don't go falling through a floor that isn't there any more.

In groups it's good to know a) what you're capable of so no show-boating and b) all be on the same page when it comes to hiding/running etc. When I was in Pyestock last year with 9 (9!!) other people I explored it alone for half the time then when we were together and security appeared, we only had to glance at each other before everyone legging it in different directions and hiding:lol:

Exploring alone is peaceful, but doing it with a mate provides banter and an extra pair of eyes.
 
Search out Elle Dunn's photo "NightTerrors (13).jpg" on the site www.contaminationzone.com and zoom in to the middle of her back.

That should put you off urbexing on your tod. She fell into a load of scrap metal and had to have serious medical attention with rather a lot of stitches.

A strong case for not going solo? :(
 
Search out Elle Dunn's photo "NightTerrors (13).jpg" on the site www.contaminationzone.com and zoom in to the middle of her back.

That should put you off urbexing on your tod. She fell into a load of scrap metal and had to have serious medical attention with rather a lot of stitches.

A strong case for not going solo? :(

going alone or with people isn't going to stop you falling

it's personal choice I don't understand why anyone would want to go with someone else
 
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