St Joseph's Seminary, Wigan. May 2008

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Memories of my boarding school days at the Brigidene Convent, Beechworth, Australia in the 1950's came flooding back with the photo of that row of wash basins... I remember there were rows of them there too. Thanks for sharing your photos Gibbo - Ciao!
 
Whats going to happen to this place then? If it is being developed it would be criminal for those books and the frescoes to be just binned.
 
I was a student there as a boy so can add a few comments (BTW I was there at the same time as "Johnny Vegas" who spent 3 years there).

Pic 1: Main entrance: Surprised no-one has a photo of the wooden staircase that goes above the interior of the door, assuming of course it hasn't been stripped out. When you went through the door the downstairs corridors travelled left and down a flight of stairs to the Chapel, and right to Lower Line with the Senior Common Room in the corner. That would be worth taking a photo of.

To the left corridor (towards the chapel) there was a recess with a large statue of our Lady of Lourdes. Another good shot would have been the large wood panelled windows to the sacristy just past the Sanctuary Door to the Chapel.

Pic 3. Upstairs corridor (probably looking at it) West wing leading to Higher Line (the courtyard was on a stepped slope, Higher Line was the 3 story wing that was the first to be built with the clock tower in the centre, opposite it was the 4 story Lower Line that had the Observatory in the left tower above the Gradwell Library. The Entrance is on East Wing, the refectory (with the statues above it) formed part of West Wing that also extended into the rectory and the new Art and Science block extensions built in the early 70's). This was where the resident clergy lived in appartment rooms.

Pics 4, 5, and 6 are the Gradwell Library

Pic 8 is the roof of the refectory. The refec'y had 2 large dining rooms with a riased platform at one end. We used to eat in there with the clergy on the raised platform dining table.

Pic 9: That Dorm is over the East Wing. Each bedspace was divided by the panels with a curtain. You had a small wardrobe and chest in each space. Down the centre of the Dorm there were a number of large cabinet's where you each also had 2 drawers for your clothes and study tables for group study/homework. Each dorm also had a larger bedspace for the prefect.

Pics 1, 11, & 12. IIRC, these were taken in the side-chapels in the main Chapel. As you go into the Chapel you enter a large hall-like "Narthex" with the rood screeen to your right and in front of you the big blue and gold reredo of the Lady Altar and high above you on the right the stained glass Rose Window. There ware doors all around the Narthex that revealed tiny little mini-chapels with altars and frontal in them like those in these 3 pictures. In the days before the mass was said in English (and the building was awash with Clergy) they each used to say their private masses in these small Chapels.

If you tep forward and turn to your left you then look down the choir stalls towards the Sanctuary (Pic 13). You go up 4 steps onto the wooden floor. Ahead of you is the green carpet of the Sanctuary. The reason it is so large is because part of the ceremony of ordination requires the candidate to lie prostrate infront of the altar, and it was build purposefully big to allow ordinations of many candidates. Behind the main altar is a series of 3 other small chapels/altars like the ones in the above photos.

Pic 16 is the frontal to the Lady Altar in the Chapel Narthex.

Pic 23 looks like the showers in the changing room in the Gym/Arts Theatre which shoots off behind the refectory.

Pic 24 are the washrooms in Higher Line (possibly also where the showers are above if not the Gym)
 
Do you have any pictures from when it was still in use? I still need to see this, sadly, I don't think I ever will.

M :)
 
Welcome pindar (You're not living in Southport are you? If you are I think we may have a mutual friend!).

As for pic1 and the main entrance, yes the nice staircase is still there (and looking splendid may I add), but the offices by this staircase were in use by the film production team at the time of snapping, so I kept well clear when I went with the camera!

I have a good few hundred photos if you'd like me to put them onto a disc for you?
 
Do you have any pictures from when it was still in use? I still need to see this, sadly, I don't think I ever will.

M :)


Not electronically. The photos I have are all at my dad's place. If you Google the name then you'll find some old photos of the place on various historical websites that have B&Ws from the 1930s for comparison of the Gradwell and Chapel. Equally, there are other derelict bldgs sites like this one where photogrophers have taken shots between the site closing and this set. I fgound some great ones of the wood pannelled/painted rooof of the St Edward the Confessor Chapel on the corner of Higher Line and the north wing, the Study Hall on WW, and the gothic arches and (modern style) stained glass window of the Cursillo Chapel. Obviously I can't link them as they belong to other sites and the intellectual property of the photographers who took them and posted them there.

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I wrote a wikipedia page a couple of years ago that people have added to, and the photo above is on the entry and shows Higher Line taken from inside the Quad (judging by the boarded windows probably around the time it closed).

The smaller windows on the 3rd floor are to the dormintories, the windows below are the rooms that were usually occupied by the clergy/staff and the ground floor windows are classrooms. You'll notice that where the north wing joins Higher Line the flooors don't quite marry up. The middle floor was dominated by the large Study Hall and the St Edward chapel is in the corner where the 2 buildings joined.

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There are some photos of the upper hall on some of the other derelict sites, this one was taken by Michael McKenna when it was still in use as a junior seminary.

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I've seen a recent photo of this corridor on the 28 days later site, again the above was taken by Michael McKenna.

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This is Lower Line taken from the playing field

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And this is the entrance from over the lake.

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This photo was taken in 1965 looking down the quad to Lower Line with the Observatory just visible on the corner tower of the north wing.

This LINK gives you a good bird's eye view of the college, and as it's a couple of years old it hadn't been wrecked when it was taken.

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Another shot of the south wing entrance pre-closure.

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Old (1920/30's) photo of the Chapel choir stalls taken from under the rood screen in the Narthex.

this link has some old photos fpor comparison as well.

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Staircase above entrance

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Entrance hall



It really was a great place. I have fond memories of early mornings and morning prayer in the chapel and running up and down the corridor with the Peackocks calling out to each other (I wonder what happened to them).
 
Welcome pindar (You're not living in Southport are you? If you are I think we may have a mutual friend!).

As for pic1 and the main entrance, yes the nice staircase is still there (and looking splendid may I add), but the offices by this staircase were in use by the film production team at the time of snapping, so I kept well clear when I went with the camera!

I have a good few hundred photos if you'd like me to put them onto a disc for you?


Gibbo, live in Bucks now.

I found some great shots on someone's flickr site, but as he's a pro it won't let me link (left click on the red x and copy the url into your browser and have a look, if you can somehow work out how to post those images into the thread they'd look great!)
 
Excellent info and photos, Pindar. It really brings a place to life when there are accounts from someone who's been involved in it in someway. Cheers for that, and welcome to DP, btw. :)
 
That link came up dead. Was the programme cahced?

I remember the BBC NW did a documentary on the college when I was a student about 1984/5, it would be great to see it again.

It was called "Fathers to Be" and was a mix of the documentary from 1984 and a follow up on a few of the pupils featured.

You'll probably be able to get it on that UKTVNOVA site.
 
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