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I am in shear disbelief! Totally gobsmacked to read this article. Thankyou for posting and alerting us to this.
 
That is a little worrying that! The amount of time ive spent in the various tunnels of many hospitals! :eek:

The cynic in me does make me wonder if perhaps he may have been after copper though...
 
the place got raped by land pirates a few months back, the guy was blatantly after copper word on the street says they had cutting gear when they found him and tbh sounds like the guy cut a live cable rather than was on an explore
 
the place got raped by land pirates a few months back, the guy was blatantly after copper word on the street says they had cutting gear when they found him and tbh sounds like the guy cut a live cable rather than was on an explore

Plod seems to think they were after copper too, the name in the earlier report has been removed so could be true - in case of prosecution?:neutral:
 
Ive seen one report saying he was called Keith Greaves dont know any explorers of that name...
 
I've not seen many dead people in court... ;)

Lol, too true. I was wondering if the were cutting cables for copper TBH if so maybe it will serve as a reminder to the others of the dangers of thieving. However if he wasn't a land pirate my condolences
 
Ive seen one report saying he was called Keith Greaves dont know any explorers of that name...
yes, that name featured in first reports - later reports which spoke of possible theft had no name. There were two persons involved so thats wot I meant by prosecution....electric chair I expect!
 
makes u wonder if they will tighten up on security following this making it more difficult for explores
 
I'm getting worried about all this metal theft, and am now wondering whether continuing to hide behind a pseudonym is the best thing to do. As I'm not committing any crimes, it might be easier to establish my innocence quickly if I'm open about my identity. Plod can then link me with Red Dave's reports and see it's a perfectly innocent, if unconventional, hobby. Having a camera and tripod isn't enough - Plod might think I'm casing the joint. I know it's "innocent until proven guilty" but I'd rather not be arrested in the first place.

Has anyone else thought about this? I know a few urban explorers do use their real names (or appear to), and a few use pseudonyms but have well-known (or at least easily established) real names. I know there might be an issue for someone working in security (or the police) but that doesn't apply to me.
 
This is really bad, will have to take more care regardless of what the circumstances were.
 
Metal theft goes on all the time and with copper being at a premium along with lead stealing it form a derelict property seems an easy choice which is why a lot of places we come across are trashed by pikeys or smackheads looking for something easy to steal and sell. I know the local hospital near me which many of you have visited gets smackheads going in stealing door handles and anything easily removed. The fact one person gets electrocuted by a live copper cable makes me think straight away he was trying to steal it so got his comeuppance for his mistake. Urban explorers don't go round stealing anything other than a moment in time on their camera so why be so shocked over this. If the guy was legitimate and trying to follow his hobby to get a photo then I'm sorry to hear of what happened if he was stealing then tough some others might learn a lesson from his mistake but I doubt it.
 
I'm getting worried about all this metal theft, and am now wondering whether continuing to hide behind a pseudonym is the best thing to do. As I'm not committing any crimes, it might be easier to establish my innocence quickly if I'm open about my identity. Plod can then link me with Red Dave's reports and see it's a perfectly innocent, if unconventional, hobby. Having a camera and tripod isn't enough - Plod might think I'm casing the joint. I know it's "innocent until proven guilty" but I'd rather not be arrested in the first place.

Has anyone else thought about this? I know a few urban explorers do use their real names (or appear to), and a few use pseudonyms but have well-known (or at least easily established) real names. I know there might be an issue for someone working in security (or the police) but that doesn't apply to me.

It makes absolutely zero difference to the police or CPS if you use a pseudonym or your real name online. You've got a case of the screaming paranoias I think.
 
From what news that I have gathered about this incident, the name quoted is correct, they were there after copper and the security has been considerably tightened.

The security guard that we met there on our last visit was very aware of the difference between what we do and metal scavengers, we still got asked to leave, but nicely.
 
The conclusion of this adventure,

Metal thief was electrocuted stealing copper

Thursday, December 01, 2011
West Briton


A METAL thief was electrocuted during a daytime copper raid in a labyrinth of tunnels under a disused mental hospital.

Keith 'Yorkie' Greaves died after he stripped a live wire to power the electric tools he was using to cut up an old copper water tank in the disused St Lawrence's Hospital, Bodmin.

At an inquest into the death of the married father of two of Jubilee Road, Threemilestone, his childhood friend and accomplice Neil Knight said he heard an indescribable noise as he walked away from Mr Greaves.

Mechanic Mr Knight said: "I shone my torch in Keith's direction. He was on his knees with his back towards me.

"It all happened so fast ... I remember then going to the front of Keith and seeing a grey cable by his hand.

"I immediately kicked it away and knelt down in front of Keith facing him. He looked to be slowly falling down.

"His eyes were open and bloodshot, his mouth was open and I could hear a noise, similar to a snore, coming from Keith."

He lay Mr Greaves on the floor and tried in vain to resuscitate him before running out of the narrow tunnels, where he had no mobile signal, to call for an ambulance just after 2pm.

Despite paramedics arriving in less than four minutes they and fire crews could not get to Mr Greaves until the electricity was turned off more than three hours later. Patients were having kidney dialysis in a modern part of the hospital and electricity could not be switched off until the treatment was finished.

Emergency services found Mr Greaves lying in the middle of the wire-filled room with a grey flex, which had supplied a fire alarm, hanging down from the ceiling, the end stripped and wires exposed near his body. He was pronounced dead by paramedics just before 6pm.

Bodmin-based fireman Jonathan Hodgson described the area the two men had been working in as being "covered" with stripped cables.

The inquest heard how the pair had set out on Easter Monday of this year to steal copper cabling from the hospital after Mr Greaves, 40, read about the metals in the disused building on the internet.

A post-mortem examination found the current had entered through his left hand and exited between his shoulder blades, where there was a 35cm patch of charred skin.

Concluding Mr Greaves's electrocution was the result of an accident, deputy coroner for Cornwall Andrew Cox issued a stark warning to metal thieves.

"I very much hope anyone who's been here today or reads the reports gives cause to consider the perils of trespassing and then engaging in an activity such as this," he said.

"It's an absolute tragedy that this has taken a turn that led to the death of Mr Greaves. It's a senseless waste of young life."
 
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